2025 Blue Jays
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OldTimeHockey
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Hopefully some of the steam they all seemed to blow off last night helps refocus them. The poor me attitudes are killing them. Whines of "if they want New York to win" is garbage. At least NY is hitting the ball. Suck it up, make contact, put the ball in play. Get back to having fun playing ball.
OldTimeHockey
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Note: that strike zone last night was once again horrendous. All over the map. It's like they have somewhere to be and want out of there as soon as possible. It forces the batters to adjust, and chase while they guess what's a strike.
L K
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Kirk being thrown out at 1st from the outfield by a full stride to end the game.......I know he does some thing good but watching him out of the box, I really don't think this team hustles enough. Vlad Je got thrown out earlier in the game when he blasted a ball up the middle and he definitely didn't fully run it out. For a team struggling to generate offense right now I find the effort level pretty poor. Vlad getting thrown out of the game drawing lines in front of the ump was embarassing. You make 500 million bucks and are in a pennant race....be a leader
This team is extremely frustrating
This team is extremely frustrating
dappleganger
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Mad Max got some favourable calls with that strike zone too, but yeah, it really screws the hitters. Against someone like Crochet, it's like a death sentence. Garrett doesn't need the help.
OldTimeHockey
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Even yesterday's game doesn't give you a really great feeling, at least from an offensive point of view. They had one "good" inning. And calling it good may be a stretch. The 3 players on base were there because of an error, a walk, and a hit batter. Varsho hit the grand slam on a pitch he strikes out on 99% of the time. Gimenez hit a double up the line and Springer cashed him with a clutch HR.
At the end of the day, they only had 7 hits. If they hope to win the TBay series and win the division, they'll need more from Guerrero, Varsho, Kirk(has seemed sluggish), and Barger.
At the end of the day, they only had 7 hits. If they hope to win the TBay series and win the division, they'll need more from Guerrero, Varsho, Kirk(has seemed sluggish), and Barger.
L K
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DIVISION LEADERS
AL EAST
WILDCARD
It comes down to the final weekend...
Jays face Tampa at home. They are currently 3-7 against Tampa on the season.
New York faces Baltimore at home. They are 6-4 against Baltimore on the season.
Seattle faces the Dodgers at home. This is their only meeting in 2025. LA is 29-16 all time against the Mariners.
TAMPA BAY @ TORONTO
Game 1 - Adrian Houser (8-4 3.18 ERA) vs. Shane Bieber (3-2 3.57 ERA)
- Houser is 1-0 against the Jays in 2 starts this year. He has 13.1 IP giving up 3 ER on 14 hits, giving up 5 walks and striking out 6
- In his career he is 1-2 with 23.2 IP giving up 14 ER while giving up 9 walks and striking out 12
- Bieber has a career stat line of 2-2 in 6 starts with a 36.1 IP giving up 13 ER while walking 9 and striking out 48
Game 2 - Joe Boyle (1-3 4.40 ERA) vs. Trey Yesavage (0-0 5.00 ERA)
- Boyle is 0-0 against the Jays in 1 start this year. He has 6.0 IP giving up 0 ER on 4 hits and striking out 5
- Yesavage is 0-0 against Tampa in 1 start this year. He has 5.0 IP giving up 1 ER on 3 hits, giving up 2 walks and striking out 9
Game 3 - Ian Seymour (4-2 2.85 ERA) vs. TBD
- Seymour is 1-0 against the Jays in 1 start this year. He has 7.0 IP giving up 0ER on 4 hits, giving up 1 walk and striking out 3
BALTIMORE @ NEW YORK
Game 1 - Trevor Rogers (9-2 1.35 ERA) vs. Will Warren (8-8 4.35 ERA)
Game 2 - Tomoyuki Sugano (10-9 4.54 ERA) vs. Cam Schlittler (3-3 3.27 ERA)
Game 3 - Kyle Bradish (1-1 2.25 ERA) vs. Luis Gil (4-1 3.29 ERA)
LA DODGERS @ SEATTLE
Game 1 - Emmet Sheehan (6-3 2.86 ERA) vs TBD
Game 2 - Tyler Glasnow (4-3 3.30 ERA) vs. TBD
Game 3 - Clayton Kershaw (10-2 3.52 ERA) vs. TBD
The Jays guaranteed the 1st wildcard position with their win over the Boston Red Sox. The Jays will either get a bye into the ALDS or will play any of Boston, Detroit, Cleveland or Houston at home in the Wild Card.
DIVISION WINNING SCENARIOS
| TEAM | RECORD | GAMES BACK OF JAYS | E# |
| Toronto | 91-68 | --- | --- |
| Seattle | 90-69 | *1 | 2 |
| Cleveland | 86-73 | 5 | ELIMINATED |
AL EAST
| TEAM | RECORD | GAMES BACK OF JAYS | E# |
| Toronto | 91-68 | --- | --- |
| New York | 91-68 | *0 | 3 |
WILDCARD
| TEAM | RECORD | GAMES BACK OF JAYS | E# |
| New York | 91-68 | --- | --- |
| Boston | 87-72 | 4* | ELIMINATED |
| Detroit | 86-73 | 5* | ELIMINATED |
| Houston | 85-74 | 6 | ELIMINATED |
It comes down to the final weekend...
Jays face Tampa at home. They are currently 3-7 against Tampa on the season.
New York faces Baltimore at home. They are 6-4 against Baltimore on the season.
Seattle faces the Dodgers at home. This is their only meeting in 2025. LA is 29-16 all time against the Mariners.
TAMPA BAY @ TORONTO
Game 1 - Adrian Houser (8-4 3.18 ERA) vs. Shane Bieber (3-2 3.57 ERA)
- Houser is 1-0 against the Jays in 2 starts this year. He has 13.1 IP giving up 3 ER on 14 hits, giving up 5 walks and striking out 6
- In his career he is 1-2 with 23.2 IP giving up 14 ER while giving up 9 walks and striking out 12
- Bieber has a career stat line of 2-2 in 6 starts with a 36.1 IP giving up 13 ER while walking 9 and striking out 48
Game 2 - Joe Boyle (1-3 4.40 ERA) vs. Trey Yesavage (0-0 5.00 ERA)
- Boyle is 0-0 against the Jays in 1 start this year. He has 6.0 IP giving up 0 ER on 4 hits and striking out 5
- Yesavage is 0-0 against Tampa in 1 start this year. He has 5.0 IP giving up 1 ER on 3 hits, giving up 2 walks and striking out 9
Game 3 - Ian Seymour (4-2 2.85 ERA) vs. TBD
- Seymour is 1-0 against the Jays in 1 start this year. He has 7.0 IP giving up 0ER on 4 hits, giving up 1 walk and striking out 3
BALTIMORE @ NEW YORK
Game 1 - Trevor Rogers (9-2 1.35 ERA) vs. Will Warren (8-8 4.35 ERA)
Game 2 - Tomoyuki Sugano (10-9 4.54 ERA) vs. Cam Schlittler (3-3 3.27 ERA)
Game 3 - Kyle Bradish (1-1 2.25 ERA) vs. Luis Gil (4-1 3.29 ERA)
LA DODGERS @ SEATTLE
Game 1 - Emmet Sheehan (6-3 2.86 ERA) vs TBD
Game 2 - Tyler Glasnow (4-3 3.30 ERA) vs. TBD
Game 3 - Clayton Kershaw (10-2 3.52 ERA) vs. TBD
The Jays guaranteed the 1st wildcard position with their win over the Boston Red Sox. The Jays will either get a bye into the ALDS or will play any of Boston, Detroit, Cleveland or Houston at home in the Wild Card.
DIVISION WINNING SCENARIOS
| Jays Record | Yankees Record to Pass Toronto | Seattle Record to Pass Toronto |
| 3-0 | Can't Catch the Jays | Can't Catch the Jays |
| 2-1 | 3-0 | Can't Catch the Jays |
| 1-2 | 2-1 | 3-0 |
| 0-3 | 1-2 | 2-1 |
This hurts, feels like Romero and Sanchez all over again. Young super star pitcher one day, the next day, they're toast?
He'll fit right in on the Braves.
Andy007
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I'm really not sure why they keep beating Hoffman into the ground. Velocity down, command all over the place. He pitched a shaky inning yesterday (20+ pitches in a non-save situation), then luckily saves it today (25 pitch inning). I don't see this working in the playoffs..
OldTimeHockey
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That was another terrifying 9th inning.
L K
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About as good of an outcome as you can expect at this point
Jays win 4-2. Not the best start from Bieber but he battled through 5 innings. Hoffman continues to be an adventure.
Yankees win 8-4. Just expect them to win out at this point.
Red Sox come from behind to beat Detroit 4-3. This clinched a playoff spot for the Red Sox. Detroit continues to free fall. Detroit is the only team that can still pass the Red Sox but they are locked into playing on the road. Regardless of where they finish
Seattle loses 3-2 to the Dodgers. Seattle has already clinched the AL West but are now locked in as the second best division winner as they can't catch the Jays or Yankees.
Cleveland loses to Texas 7-3. They continue to hold the AL Central via tiebreaker. They will either win the division or finish in WC3 as they can't pass Boston.
Houston loses 3-2 to the Angels. Their elimination number is down to 1 for Detroit and Cleveland.
Jays win 4-2. Not the best start from Bieber but he battled through 5 innings. Hoffman continues to be an adventure.
Yankees win 8-4. Just expect them to win out at this point.
Red Sox come from behind to beat Detroit 4-3. This clinched a playoff spot for the Red Sox. Detroit continues to free fall. Detroit is the only team that can still pass the Red Sox but they are locked into playing on the road. Regardless of where they finish
Seattle loses 3-2 to the Dodgers. Seattle has already clinched the AL West but are now locked in as the second best division winner as they can't catch the Jays or Yankees.
Cleveland loses to Texas 7-3. They continue to hold the AL Central via tiebreaker. They will either win the division or finish in WC3 as they can't pass Boston.
Houston loses 3-2 to the Angels. Their elimination number is down to 1 for Detroit and Cleveland.
dappleganger
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They shouldn't have had him come in for the non-save situation up 6-1 against the BoSox. They must have another pitcher who can finish that up.