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NHL's 24-team Return to Play proposal

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https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/1263643064498823168

Yes, this will produce a very legitimate champion.
 
Nik Bethune said:
https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/1263643064498823168

Yes, this will produce a very legitimate champion.
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Absolute nonsense. I get they want to give the cusp teams a chance but my view is too damn bad, the reg season is done, time to move on. Why have a longer playoff and risk potential infection for many teams that have no right to be part of this?
 
https://www.tsn.ca/a-closer-look-at-the-nhl-s-24-team-playoff-proposal-1.1477880

In this 24-team proposal, the top 12 teams from each conference, based on points percentage, will play on, with the top four in the East and West (regardless of division) each receiving a bye to the actual playoff portion.

Those top four teams would play each other in a three-game round robin. It remains unclear how exactly the round-robin formula will work, but the belief is that those games will not simply be warmup exhibitions ? they could provide opportunity for those four teams to change their seeding.

While that round-robin is occurring, the remaining eight teams would square off in best-of-five, play-in series.

The winners of those play-in series would determine the 16 playoff teams, then be bracketed to start the chase for Lord Stanley.
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In this scenario the Leafs would need to beat the Blue Jackets in a best-of-5 series in order to move on to the official 1st round of the playoffs.
 
Regardless of the details, from a legitimacy perspective, it'll be somewhere between the world cup of hockey (on the high) and the globetrotters vs the generals (a hair lower)

Will I watch virtually all the games and associated advertising etc etc while complaining about all of it? Probably. 
 
CarltonTheBear said:
https://www.tsn.ca/a-closer-look-at-the-nhl-s-24-team-playoff-proposal-1.1477880

In this 24-team proposal, the top 12 teams from each conference, based on points percentage, will play on, with the top four in the East and West (regardless of division) each receiving a bye to the actual playoff portion.

Those top four teams would play each other in a three-game round robin. It remains unclear how exactly the round-robin formula will work, but the belief is that those games will not simply be warmup exhibitions ? they could provide opportunity for those four teams to change their seeding.

While that round-robin is occurring, the remaining eight teams would square off in best-of-five, play-in series.

The winners of those play-in series would determine the 16 playoff teams, then be bracketed to start the chase for Lord Stanley.
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In this scenario the Leafs would need to beat the Blue Jackets in a best-of-5 series in order to move on to the official 1st round of the playoffs.
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What's the point of having divisions then? Being third seed in Atlantic is basically meaningless.
 
24 teams is too many. Not a fan of this proposal.

An article in The Athletic last week floated the idea of a 20 team playoff that would either see the top 3 teams in each division guaranteed a spot, with a play-in between the 4th and 5th place teams (or, the 4 teams at the top of the wild card race, split by division where possible), or a short round-robin tourney where the team that does the poorest gets eliminated. I liked that idea - it mitigates some of the concerns about bubble teams not getting the opportunity to fight their way win over the last 10 games, but doesn't add teams that had no realistic shot at a playoff spot.

The fact that Montreal, Chicago, and Arizona would make it into the playoffs in a 24 team scenario is, quite frankly, ridiculous.
 
bustaheims said:
The fact that Montreal, Chicago, and Arizona would make it into the playoffs in a 24 team scenario is, quite frankly, ridiculous.
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Montreal has 19 regulation wins this season. They're 11 points out of a playoff spot with 11 games left to play. Their odds of making the playoffs before the season stopped were basically nil. The only reason they're in this discussion is a) to give the league an easier number of teams to work with and b) because they're one of the leagues biggest/most profitable markets. Same goes for Chicago too really.
 
This makes more sense than finishing off the regular season.  But it's still silly.

Still not convinced this season gets finished though, despite all these hurdles they're trying to jump through to get it done.
 
I think the cutoff has to be somewhere, and really as Carlton mentioned, they're also trying to generate some revenue for as many clubs as is doable.

In looking at the standings, I forgot how close the Leafs were to being out of it.
 
the whole thing seems a bit tenuous doesn't it?  All it will take for the plan to collapse is a few thoughtless players getting sick. ;)
 
I saw an interesting suggestion just now that was basically teams that weren't in playoff positions prior to the shutdown should have to win an extra game in the play-in rounds vs. teams that were in a playoff position. That would at least somewhat mimic how things would have needed to go for the outside teams had the regular season concluded.
 
CTB hit it.  This is about $$$ and nothing else.  Fairness, legitimacy ? none of that is even in the discussion, other than as window dressing.
 
While, I'm not a fan of the suggestion, I'm not really surprised by it. These teams are businesses that need to make money.
Businesses through out North America are working their hardest to make money and coming up with all kinds of ideas to get it done. Not sure why anyone would expect these NHL businesses to behave any differently.
 
Can we just do all teams in? The best team is going to win.

Team with most points in the regular season gets a first round bye.

 
OldTimeHockey said:
While, I'm not a fan of the suggestion, I'm not really surprised by it. These teams are businesses that need to make money.
Businesses through out North America are working their hardest to make money and coming up with all kinds of ideas to get it done. Not sure why anyone would expect these NHL businesses to behave any differently.
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Most businesses in North America aren't sports franchises where the year to year profitability isn't going to make or break anyone with a financial stake in them.
 
Nik Bethune said:
OldTimeHockey said:
While, I'm not a fan of the suggestion, I'm not really surprised by it. These teams are businesses that need to make money.
Businesses through out North America are working their hardest to make money and coming up with all kinds of ideas to get it done. Not sure why anyone would expect these NHL businesses to behave any differently.
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Most businesses in North America aren't sports franchises where the year to year profitability isn't going to make or break anyone with a financial stake in them.
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What does that have to do with anything?
 
OldTimeHockey said:
What does that have to do with anything?
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You don't see the difference between a corner restaurant needing to open so that the owner doesn't lose his business and is able to pay his mortgage and a hockey team playing a handful of games so that the owner's net worth changes by something like .0001%? Within the context of saying that these businesses "need" to make this money?

It is not unreasonable for someone to look at a NHL team and think they might want to put health and safety over making a tiny bit of revenue in a way that does not apply to a struggling small business owner.
 
Also, for what it's worth, I don't see how this would make the teams any more money. It's not like Sportsnet is going to pay the NHL over and above what they already do and TV money already gets split evenly.
 
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