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2025-26 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion

cabber24 said:
Can I be reminded when Trev screwed up? Trev had nothing to do with Marner leaving for nothing. Marner didn't want to resign and exercised his NMC. Knies andTavares were signed to reasonable deals. OEL and Tanev have been awesome. Roy and Joshua could work out.
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At this point trading for Laughton and Carlo look pretty bad...
 
cabber24 said:
Can I be reminded when Trev screwed up? Trev had nothing to do with Marner leaving for nothing. Marner didn't want to resign and exercised he's NMC. Knies andTavares were signed to reasonable deals. OEL and Tanev have been awesome. Roy and Joshua could work out.
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Team can't win. That may be it. Can nit pick some things maybe. I guess you can blame him for hiring Berube if it turns out the problem all along is that the players don't fit the coach. I don't see major blunders. When I say that's all I would trust him with is those minor deals it's because I believe they need a significant rebuild and I doubt Treliving thinks that or would take that path. He'll keep trying to win now till he eventually gets fired for optics at least, delaying the inevitable, making 2030 turn into 2035.
 
Bender said:
At this point trading for Laughton and Carlo look pretty bad...
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No doubt about it, but context matters. That's trade deadline stuff. And the steep price paid for these relatively decent players is in line with what the other contenders paid at last year's deadline.

I mean, look at Tampa's big deadline trade last year. TB got Yanni Gourde, Oliver Bjorkstrand, a 2025 fifth-round pick, and defenseman Kyle Aucoin. They traded Michael Eyssimont, a 2026 first-round pick, a 2027 first-round pick, and a 2025 second-round pick (from Toronto) to Seattle and a fourth round pick to Detroit. I'd say there's a lot of similarity to what Treliving did.
 
Bender said:
Fans are mad for being invested and paying salaries of players and have high expectations and the org not being forthcoming with any semblance of the truth when their best player looks like he's aged 10yrs since the start of last season, along with the rest of what's gone on this year. It's not rocket science.
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I'm a fan and I don't give a shit what the Leafs divulge or not. Most fans do not pay their salaries. Most if not all NHL teams do not discuss specific injuries outside of the obvious. The NHL does not require them to share that info. Anyone with a brain can clearly see he has an injury and doesn't need to be told. It's not rocket science.
And you can guarantee if they did come out and say Matthews has a chronic injury, these "fans" would be saying bullshit, they're just making up excuses.
 
Champ Kind said:
No doubt about it, but context matters. That's trade deadline stuff. And the steep price paid for these relatively decent players is in line with what the other contenders paid at last year's deadline.

I mean, look at Tampa's big deadline trade last year. TB got Yanni Gourde, Oliver Bjorkstrand, a 2025 fifth-round pick, and defenseman Kyle Aucoin. They traded Michael Eyssimont, a 2026 first-round pick, a 2027 first-round pick, and a 2025 second-round pick (from Toronto) to Seattle and a fourth round pick to Detroit. I'd say there's a lot of similarity to what Treliving did.
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It would be a bad GM move if he made similar trades this year.
 
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