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2025-26 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion

mr grieves said:
No, it doesn’t make a lot of sense, which is why it didn’t happen that way. “GM DNA”didn’t walk away from the player; the player left the team.
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I think he did. Treliving was flirting with trading him in the media in June 2024. He did not make a great effort to stand up for him nor make it any kind of a priority to re-sign him. Then he attempted to move him at the deadline. For a player of Marner's stature and with his record, Marner's GM basically said he wasn't very important to his team through his actions and let the media fry him. Marner took the harsh hint. Marner wasn't going to hang around where his GM didn't really want him. If Dubas or another NHL GM was around, Marner would probably still be in Toronto.
 
Bender said:
Im

I'm not reading your treatise on the most important player of all time. Sorry.
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How could you draw that conclusion if you didn't read it?

Marner will never be regarded anything close to that. But Treliving's handling of Marner is likely be in his Leafs GM epitaph as a significant error taking a crowbar to a roster of a team that was one win away from beating the Cup champs.
 
cw said:
I think he did. Treliving was flirting with trading him in the media in June 2024. He did not make a great effort to stand up for him nor make it any kind of a priority to re-sign him. Then he attempted to move him at the deadline. For a player of Marner's stature and with his record, Marner's GM basically said he wasn't very important to his team through his actions and let the media fry him. Marner took the harsh hint. Marner wasn't going to hang around where his GM didn't really want him. If Dubas or another NHL GM was around, Marner would probably still be in Toronto.
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Everything that you take as evidence that Treliving wanted rid of Marner is what any GM would do when he’s given reason to believe a player isn’t interested in coming back.

Here’s three players at locker clean out day, responding to questions about whether they wanted to be in Toronto long term and how/when a contract would get done:

I love it here, I don’t want to be anywhere else, and this is where I want to win… I have a full year, and uhm I mean obviously I want to stay here and my uh it would be nice to if we could sort that out
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My intention is to be here. I think I have [garbled] that before, how much I enjoy playing here and what it means to me — the organization, my teammates, and how much I enjoy being here…. It [the contract] will all kind of work itself out in due time
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Yeah I mean that’d be a goal. I’ve expressed my love for this place, the city, obviously I’ve grown up here so um you know we’ll start thinking about that now and you know trying to figure something out.
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If I were managing a team, one of these would make me pretty concerned
 
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cw said:
How could you draw that conclusion if you didn't read it?

Marner will never be regarded anything close to that. But Treliving's handling of Marner is likely be in his Leafs GM epitaph as a significant error taking a crowbar to a roster of a team that was one win away from beating the Cup champs.
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We were fortunate to score some quick goals in the first two games against Florida then they made the adjustments and shut us down...again, 9 years of being shut down, over and over and over and over and.... this team needed a crowbar and that's a fact, fingers crossed we find/found someone to feed Matthews in the playoffs and not get shut down, again.
 
cw said:
How could you draw that conclusion if you didn't read it?

Marner will never be regarded anything close to that. But Treliving's handling of Marner is likely be in his Leafs GM epitaph as a significant error taking a crowbar to a roster of a team that was one win away from beating the Cup champs.
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I'm not relitigating anything with Marner and the post was far too long.
 
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