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Rick Nash

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This is from Friedman's 31 thoughts:

4. As training camps open, there?s no clarity on Rick Nash?s future. There were plenty of teams who checked in (Las Vegas and Toronto believed to be among them), and a GM indicated he heard one club was willing to offer $16 million over three years. Wife Jessica recently gave birth to their third child, and Nash?s injury history (including multiple concussions) had him seriously considering retirement. Agent Joe Resnick: ?Nothing has changed since July 1. Status quo.?
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My gut instinct is that, if true, this is more a case of Dubas doing due dilligence than a serious burning need but I do think that in terms of a short term deal for a reasonable hit that it actually makes a fair amount of sense. Something to try and replace a little of what the team lost with JVR.
 
You know, he'd be a pretty nice fit on the 3rd line with Kadri and Kapanen/Brown.

That being said, I would think that his signing would ultimately mean less playing time for Johnsson and wouldn't affect Hyman's status as a top 6 LW, even though it really should.
 
Andy said:
You know, he'd be a pretty nice fit on the 3rd line with Kadri and Kapanen/Brown.

That being said, I would think that his signing would ultimately mean less playing time for Johnsson and wouldn't affect Hyman's status as a top 6 LW, even though it really should.
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Old and slow. Hard pass.
 
RedLeaf said:
save the dough and target defencemen of the same caliber
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I don't think there are any comparable defensemen available right now and this would almost certainly be a short term thing.
 
Frank E said:
RedLeaf said:
save the dough and target defencemen of the same caliber
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I think they'd look at that as a deadline target.
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Yeah, that would make sense. They need to see all these guys play for a good long while before deciding what's missing up front. Not to mention Nash would need to start training seriously, and that all looks like a mid 2nd half addition, if he even decides to play.
 
AvroArrow said:
Why aren't we allowed to trade assets?
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I don't think he's saying they can't but if there's a good trade out there for a defensemen where the Leafs would have to sacrifice assets they already have...how does that relate to potentially adding Rick Nash? They should make that hypothetical trade regardless of their interest in Nash. The two are almost entirely unconnected.
 
Nik the Trik said:
AvroArrow said:
Why aren't we allowed to trade assets?
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I don't think he's saying they can't but if there's a good trade out there for a defensemen where the Leafs would have to sacrifice assets they already have...how does that relate to potentially adding Rick Nash? They should make that hypothetical trade regardless of their interest in Nash. The two are almost entirely unconnected.
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You don't think cap space is required to pull in a defencemen via trade?  Especially if what we're trading is futures or cheap assets (Kapanen, etc)?
 
AvroArrow said:
You don't think cap space is required to pull in a defencemen via trade?
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No, it probably would be but in this hypothetical it strikes me as that just being a mitigating factor in what you'd be willing to offer Nash. Unless you're planning on trading for the sort of super-well paid defenseman the Leafs probably don't have the assets to land anyway(certainly not without moving any real money off their roster) then they could probably still fit Nash at some sort of reasonable offer.

I don't think anyone was suggesting they'd have to blow Nash's hair back with an offer, just asking whether or not he'd contribute to the club.
 
Maybe Nash ends up being a guy like Mike Fischer who gets the itch as the season goes along.  If he wanted back in and the Leafs showed they were lacking in a 3rd line winger (or used assets to trade for an improved defense) I would certainly kick the tires on a 1-year deal for him.
 
L K said:
Maybe Nash ends up being a guy like Mike Fischer who gets the itch as the season goes along.  If he wanted back in and the Leafs showed they were lacking in a 3rd line winger (or used assets to trade for an improved defense) I would certainly kick the tires on a 1-year deal for him.
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I'd like him on the team as a 1-year option, especially if Babcock isn't ready to give Johnsson more playing time. But the word on him always was that he didn't want to play in Toronto. I doubt that would change at this point.

If he comes back, my money would be on San Jose. Quiet market, although one with big expectations now of course. And he's pretty much best buds with Thornton so that helps.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
L K said:
Maybe Nash ends up being a guy like Mike Fischer who gets the itch as the season goes along.  If he wanted back in and the Leafs showed they were lacking in a 3rd line winger (or used assets to trade for an improved defense) I would certainly kick the tires on a 1-year deal for him.
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I'd like him on the team as a 1-year option, especially if Babcock isn't ready to give Johnsson more playing time. But the word on him always was that he didn't want to play in Toronto. I doubt that would change at this point.

If he comes back, my money would be on San Jose. Quiet market, although one with big expectations now of course. And he's pretty much best buds with Thornton so that helps.
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He will never win there, as long as Thornton is playing, Thornton is cursed.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
L K said:
Maybe Nash ends up being a guy like Mike Fischer who gets the itch as the season goes along.  If he wanted back in and the Leafs showed they were lacking in a 3rd line winger (or used assets to trade for an improved defense) I would certainly kick the tires on a 1-year deal for him.
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I'd like him on the team as a 1-year option, especially if Babcock isn't ready to give Johnsson more playing time. But the word on him always was that he didn't want to play in Toronto. I doubt that would change at this point.

If he comes back, my money would be on San Jose. Quiet market, although one with big expectations now of course. And he's pretty much best buds with Thornton so that helps.
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My feeling about him not wanting to play in Toronto was more about being the main attraction here and carrying most of the responsibilities that come along with being the face of an organization.  That has all changed now with Tavares, Matthews and crew, and it?s way different in Toronto than it was when he was a free agent. I still think the Leafs should consider trading Nylander for some help on D and perhaps try and bring in Nash as his replacement.
 
I think a lot of the "Nash doesn't want to play in Toronto" stuff is from the reports that when he was looking to leave Columbus, the Leafs were one of the teams he wouldn't waive to be traded to.

But that made sense. Rumours were Nash was leaving Columbus to go somewhere more competitive and the Leafs sucked. Now the Leafs are good and, as mentioned, he wouldn't be coming into a moribund franchise and being looked at as a guy to turn it around.
 
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