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2023 Draft Discussion

herman

herman

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28. Easton Cowan
153. Hudson Malinoski
185. Noah Chadwick

???

Leafs are picking
R1: 28th overall from BOS
R5: TOR
R6: TOR

At the combine, the Leafs are confirmed to have interviewed (by no means comprehensive); Bob McKenzie (current) rank listed if available. His final ranking will be released on the 22nd.
[*] C/LW Quentin Musty #26
[*] RW Gabe Perrault (yes, his younger son) #23
[*] C Bradly Nadeau #36
[*] C Brayden Yager #7
[*] RD Tom Willander #46
[*] RD Axel Sandin-Pellikka #17
[*] RW Kasper Halttunen #29

Did not interview but will be in Toronto to meet the team
[*] RD Oliver Bonk #30
[*] LW Colby Barlow #8
 
herman said:
Leafs are picking
R1: 28th overall from BOS
R5: TOR
R6: TOR

At the combine, the Leafs are confirmed to have interviewed (by no means comprehensive); Bob McKenzie rank listed if available
[*] C/LW Quentin Musty #26
[*] RW Gabe Perrault (yes, his younger son) #23
[*] C Bradly Nadeau #36
[*] C Brayden Yager #7
[*] RD Tom Willander #46
[*] RD Axel Sandin-Pellikka #17
[*] RW Kasper Halttunen #29

Did not interview but will be in Toronto to meet the team
[*] RD Oliver Bonk #30
[*] LW Colby Barlow #8
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Interesting they're interviewing a couole players probably going way higher than they're picking.
 
Bender said:
Interesting they're interviewing a couole players probably going way higher than they're picking.
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If I were running the team, I?d be keeping a database of info on every player possible so we are ready for any subsequent trades down the road. So few players play entire careers on one team.  More than a few of good ones are abandoned eventually by poorly run teams that were picking high.

InStat?s app makes it easy to pull up all video/clips per player to get updated viewings, so it?s just a matter of curating your own dataset to prioritize by whatever hockeyIQ metrics they?re integrating and create shortlists for whatever role/utility they?re shopping for.
 
Bender said:
Interesting they're interviewing a couole players probably going way higher than they're picking.
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If there's a player you like, interviewing them is probably good practice regardless just in the odd case that they slip enough that a trade up becomes more workable or even in the event they fall to you. It's not common but we've seen guys drop 15-20 spots from pre-draft rankings before and at worst it costs you 15 minutes.
 
Nik said:
Bender said:
Interesting they're interviewing a couole players probably going way higher than they're picking.
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If there's a player you like, interviewing them is probably good practice regardless just in the odd case that they slip enough that a trade up becomes more workable or even in the event they fall to you. It's not common but we've seen guys drop 15-20 spots from pre-draft rankings before and at worst it costs you 15 minutes.
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Liljegren was sort of a case in point, though I guess his stock fell his draft year because he was sick.

And, they can replace Sandin with Sandin-Hyphen!
 
So draft Bonk. We've got Nylander, get his brother. Sign Domi. Get a Tkachuk and Reinhart.

Basically make a lineup of the offspring of all the players you remember from the 1990s/2000s.
 
Lots of reasons why we won't pick @ 28: Treliving trades down too, we only have 1 pick in the first 4 rounds at this time, Matt Murray's final year looms. And there is significant variability between the various public outlets towards the back half of the 1st round. In any case, it's nice to get a handle on the available names.

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/plenty-of-intrigue-after-connor-bedard-in-bob-mckenzie-s-nhl-draft-lottery-edition-ranking-1.1956585
https://www.eliteprospects.com/draft-center/2023/tsn-bob-mckenzie
Bob McKenzie's current ranking: Otto Stenberg

https://theathletic.com/4562366/2023/06/08/nhl-mock-draft-2023-pronman-wheeler-bultman/
Mock Draft by the Athletic draft specialists: Quentin Musty

https://smahtscouting.com/2023/05/28/final-2023-nhl-draft-rankings/
Smaht's final ranking: Oscar Fisker M?lgaard

https://thehockeywriters.com/2023-nhl-two-round-mock-draft/
The HockeyWriter's mock 2-rder: Otto Stenberg

http://www.mynhldraft.com/2023-nhl-draft/mock-draft/
My NHL Draft's 2023 mock: Oliver Bonk

https://www.mckeenshockey.com/draft/
McKeen's draft rank: Anton Wahlberg
 
Yeah. The unfortunate reality of the situation that Dubas left is we need swings. I'd much rather have, like, the #40 and #75 than just 28. Cram the system with those high scoring CHL players I crave.
 
Nik said:
Yeah. The unfortunate reality of the situation that Dubas left is we need swings. I'd much rather have, like, the #40 and #75 than just 28. Cram the system with those high scoring CHL players I crave.
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Yup. Especially since the caliber of prospect available at 40 isn't significantly different to those at 28. You're giving up some freedom of choice, but not a ton in terms of potential ceiling. For a team that needs to add as quantity as well as quality, unless they've identified a clear favourite, adding more picks feels like the smart play.
 
Nashville, Detroit, Anaheim, and Chicago are likely candidates to trade down with, as they sport multiple 2nds.

Seattle does as well, but they are not likely to play the trade up game. There is a potential Matt Murray conversation to be had with them though. They have cap space to splash as well.

Anaheim, who is slated to lose John Gibson in some fashion might also be a conversation partner for Matt Murray discussions.
 
Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington said:
Bonk on the Growlers would just be too much.
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bonk-it.jpg
 
bustaheims said:
Nik said:
Yeah. The unfortunate reality of the situation that Dubas left is we need swings. I'd much rather have, like, the #40 and #75 than just 28. Cram the system with those high scoring CHL players I crave.
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Yup. Especially since the caliber of prospect available at 40 isn't significantly different to those at 28. You're giving up some freedom of choice, but not a ton in terms of potential ceiling. For a team that needs to add as quantity as well as quality, unless they've identified a clear favourite, adding more picks feels like the smart play.
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In theory, I also agree with this strategy though you want to make sure you arent passing on a Travis Konecny just so that you can load up with a Travis Dermott plus a Jeremy Bracco and Martins Dzeirkals 🤔.
 
gunnar36 said:
In theory, I also agree with this strategy though you want to make sure you arent passing on a Travis Konecny just so that you can load up with a Travis Dermott plus a Jeremy Bracco and Martins Dzeirkals 🤔.
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If anyone knew that Travis Konecny was going to become Travis Konecny, he wouldn't have been available at #26 to begin with. It's mainly guesswork for the most part and even if the Leafs had liked Travis Konecny a ton at the time, they wouldn't have traded down. There's really no way to make sure you make the right decision.
 
https://twitter.com/rmnb/status/1670896700766953473
It?s like they?ve got some experience getting their people installed in Washington DC.
 
When was the last time TO drafted a decent player outside of the 2nd round, in fact outside of the top 10, trade up especially in a strong draft year, let someone else decide they can get great quality lower in drafts, maybe they can but I pessimistic TO can.

The last strong/deep draft, 2015, #16 to #18 were Barzal, Kyle Connor, Chabot, should TO have traded up from 24 instead of down, hell yes. I don't know if TO would've done as well but it sure would've been nice if they tried.
 
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